smittyshan asked:
I am agnostic and my fiance is Catholic. We have agreed on not marrying in the church; however, it is important to my fiance that our marriage is recognized by the Catholic church. We are also having a good friend get a one day marriage license to marry us and not a Catholic priest. Does a Catholic priest need to marry us to make the marriage official? I was thinking that we could do a separate private ceremony if that is what it takes….ideas?
I am agnostic and my fiance is Catholic. We have agreed on not marrying in the church; however, it is important to my fiance that our marriage is recognized by the Catholic church. We are also having a good friend get a one day marriage license to marry us and not a Catholic priest. Does a Catholic priest need to marry us to make the marriage official? I was thinking that we could do a separate private ceremony if that is what it takes….ideas?
prepare to give them your soul….that ought to make em happy…
1)the red Dragon of Rev. 12 gives the beast her authority, power and location (church recv’d in 476 AD)
the number of the beast is 666 (in all ancient languages their alphabets have numerical value i.e. Greek, Hebrew etc, if you add up the letter of the title on the papal tiara worn by these popes, it equals 666….
2)the beast rules for 42 months (1260 Literal Years) 1 day = 1 yr. in prophecy
3) she has power all over the world (sure does)
4) the beast receives a deadly wound(French Revolution 1798, they kidnapped the pope and claimed atheism, which stripped them of their religious and political power)
5) the deadly wound is healed (Italy gives back to the church the Vatican as a separate nation
6) the beast speaks Great Blaspheme against God( very apparent when they took authority away from God on so many levels)
7)the beast is a pursecuting power (Inquisition, reformation etc)
from the converts cathechism pg. 50: Q: which day is the Sabbath day? A: Saturday is the Sabbath day. Q: why do we observe Sun day? A: because the church changed the day from Saturday to Sunday.
there was NEVER a command from Jesus to do so.
Of course, the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act. And that act is our mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters. James Cardinal Gibbons
Sunday is our mark of authority…the church is above the Bible, and the transferrence of the Sabbath day observance is proof of that fact. Catholic Record, Ontario, London, Sept. 1, 1923
May 31, 1998 John Paul II issued an Apostalic Letter named Dies Domini The Lords Day
section 67 (yeah it’s long) says: Christians will naturally strive to ensure the civil legislation respects their duty to keep sunday – holy.
Well, why marry outside your faith?
I would say there is not much between an agnostic and a Catholic.
Neither believes that a man or woman must be ‘born again’ to see Eternal life.
Issues like that are usually resolved at the Diocese level. You’ll want to talk to your fiance’s priest about it. Normally you would just need permission from the bishop – but since you don’t want to get married in the Church, I’m not sure how they will want to do it.
You must become a Christian first to be recognized by his church. A priest must marry you also as marriage is a sacrament only administered by a priest or bishop and is not just something you can go and sign a piece of paper and make official. If you do not follow this proceedure then he is at risk of being excommunicated from the church as it is unbiblical for a Christian to marry a non-Christian.
Susanna you’re an idiot and YOU WERE NEVER CATHOLIC!
Bearing False witness is as bad as murder.
I will pray for you
Devout Catholic
ignore the anti catholic bigots. To be recognised as a valid sacramental marriage by the church, the bride and groom must both be baptised christians, the non catholic spouse must agree to raise any children from the union as Catholic, and it must be celebrated by a priest or bishop of the Catholic Church.
To get married in the Catholic Church, you’ll have to sign a form stating that you will raise your children in the Christian faith. During your wedding either a deacon or priest will preform a blessing on your marriage. I don’t think you’ll be able to receive the sacrament of matrimony. And you really don’t need to do a separate ceremony because you’ll already be legally married with the State through a marriage license.
Don’t sweat it Kid, I’m familiar with the religious spirited for I’m a self excommunicated Catholic and I’m familiar with Catholic character and that is why I say don’t sweat it and don’t worry about any commitment your fiance has toward the Catholic Church. Do you believe that a man can declare himself infallible? No, let me rephrase that, do believe that a man born of woman can declare that it is impossible for him to make a mistake? Well, your fiance believes that the head man of his religion can So how can he be serious about anything?
What is the process to make our marriage recognized by the Catholic church?
That all depends on your situation. Having read ahead, you don’t really have a case. You need to be married in the Catholic Church.
I am agnostic and my fiance is Catholic. We have agreed on not marrying in the church; however, it is important to my fiance that our marriage is recognized by the Catholic church.
Neither you nor your fiance can have it both ways. A Catholic can’t refuse to marry in the Church just because and expect the Church to then recognize whatever arrangement you two have come up with.
Your fiance wants the union valid and thus recognized by the Church.
Your fiance’s Faith is part of who he is. Marry him and you marry his Catholicity. He marries your agnosticism when he marries you.
Part of marrying a Catholic is getting married in a Catholic Church. If this is too much to ask perhaps you should not marry a Catholic. . .
We are also having a good friend get a one day marriage license to marry us and not a Catholic priest. Does a Catholic priest need to marry us to make the marriage official?
The ministers of the the Holy Sacrament of Matrimony are the bride and groom; administering the Holy Sacrament to each other. The priest MUST preside over the ceremony to make sure it concurs with proper formula and is thus a valid marriage.
A CATHOLIC priest MUST be present for a valid CATHOLIC wedding.
I was thinking that we could do a separate private ceremony if that is what it takes….ideas?
I don’t understand what the big deal is. . . just get married in the Catholic Church.
Seriously, if that’s too much to ask, you best not marry ANY Catholics!
I’m afraid your fiance made a mistake by agreeing to marry outside the Church. Holy Matrimony is a Sacrament for Catholics, and it’s quite obvious that your fiance can’t get a Sacrament a mail-order wedding official or a justice of the peace.
YES, a Catholic priest must marry Catholics in order for their marriages to be recognized in the church. If you belonged to another kind of Christian Church, you could have married in that church and still had the marriage recognized, but since you are agnostic, that is not an option.
Your suggestion of a separate, private ceremony is fine, but the Catholic vows must take place before the other wedding (which will actually only be a renewal of vows, but nobody has to know that if you don’t want them to). Your fiance needs to call a priest and discuss this. The Church requires certain premarital preparation sessions, which are designed to help the couple stay married all their lives, so it’s very valuable, even if you are not religious. As an agnostic, you will likely also be asked to take some classes or read a book or two about Catholicism so that you understand your fiance’s religion and how certain aspects of Catholicism will affect your married lives. For example, your fiance must raise all children Catholic, and that’s not negotiable. You can also teach them why you are agnostic, but you must promise not to do anything to prevent your fiance from raising the kids Catholic or from practicing the Catholic faith. That ranges from not encouraging your spouse to skip Mass on Sundays to attending your children’s sacramental events (like First Holy Communion) to not demanding that your spouse use artificial birth control, which is a grave sin for Catholics.